Will the real, Real Nick Clegg please stand up? Two faces of
Nick Clegg one who fronts plans or cooking the books for mainly elected House
of Lords to Lib-Dems favours
The cabinet is expected to agree that 80% of the House of
Lords should be elected, in a move Nick Clegg will depict as the most
far-reaching changes to the upper house since 1911. Photograph: Leon Neal/Panicky
Clegg will next year outline plans for the most far-reaching changes to the
House of Lords since landmark reforms 100 years ago by a Liberal government
ended the upper house's ability to block Britain's annual budget.
In a move to shore up the position of the beleaguered
Liberal Democrats, the cabinet will endorse the deputy prime minister's plans
for the upper chamber to be overwhelmingly composed of elected members. It is
expected that the cabinet will agree that 80% of the new house should be
elected. One has to think if you give a man enough rope it eventually hang himself
with it and I can see just where is going for young Clegg’y blinded by his new
David Cameron, who has grown increasingly alarmed in the
past month at the personal attacks on Clegg, hopes such historic changes will
strengthen the Lib Dems.
"Clegg is having a rotten time," one cabinet
source said. "So you can see how allowing Nick Clegg his moment in the sun
on a major constitutional reform will be a boost for the Lib Dems or will it
destroy it? With those in very high powerful places who back and give a lot of
support to the Lord’s those of you with an IQ over 10% will see what could be
the possible out come from this and very clever move by Cameron the Tories Boss
David what sneaky deeds are you cultivating as Clegg take the bait like a fat
Their supporters need no lessons on the significance of
introducing major reforms to the House of Lords in 2011."
Next year marks the centenary of the 1911 Parliament Act,
passed after peers rejected David Lloyd George's People's Budget of 1909, which
introduced a massive redistribution of wealth.
Clegg will find he has a major battle within the British
cabinet once he has outlined his plans. Some senior Tories believe Cameron will
quietly live up to his pre-election commitment to ensure that reform of the
House of Lords moves slowly when a joint committee of both houses of parliament
is established “after Clegg hangs himself with his publication of Clegg's
"I'm sure we will have a great fanfare of reform on the
centenary of the 1911 Parliament Act," one senior figure said.
"Thereafter it won't be so much a case of kicking it into the long grass –
we'll be looking to park it in grass that is around the height of a
Traditionalists hope reform of the Lords will move at a
similar pace to the process under the last government. All but 92 of the
hereditary peers were expelled in 1999. The second stage of Lords reforms –
removing all the hereditary peers and introducing an elected element to the
upper house – moved at a glacial pace over the following decade. A year after
the removal of the hereditary peers, a royal commission was set up under the
chairmanship of Lord Wakeham.
A joint committee of both houses, established in 2002, set
out seven options for reform. The House of Lords voted by three to one in
favour of a fully appointed house. MPs defeated all seven options, though the
option that attracted the highest support was for a chamber with 80% elected
members. In 2004 the government dropped plans to reform the upper house in the
face of opposition from peers.
Tony Blair, who expressed unease in early 2005 about a
"hybrid" house with elected and appointed members, pledged in the
Labour manifesto for that year's general election to remove the remaining
hereditary peers and to "allow a free vote on the composition of the
Little happened in the last parliament. Labour pledged in
its general election manifesto this year to hold a referendum to create a
"fully elected second chamber" in two stages. The Tories said they
would "work to build a consensus for a mainly elected second
chamber". The Lib Dems pledged to "replace the House of Lords with a
fully elected second chamber with considerably fewer members than the current
Clegg will depict his reforms as the most far-reaching
changes to the upper house since 1911, outflanking the 1949 Parliament Act and
the removal of most hereditary peers. The 1949 act reduced the time for which
peers could block non-money bills from two years to one.
The 1911 Parliament Act famously prevented the House of
Lords from delaying for any longer than a month "money bills" dealing
The Lords eventually accepted Lloyd George's 1909 budget in
April 1910, three months after a general election which had resulted in a hung
parliament with a Liberal government supported by Labour and Irish nationalist
votes. The Lords passed the 1911 act, limiting their powers, after the Liberals
threatened to introduce scores of new peers to ensure its passage.
London Police fear new wave of gang deaths while Nick
Clegg plays games in the corridors of power that are well over this IQ?
Police fears are growing that the number of teenage killings
in London is back on the rise after the fatal shooting and stabbing of a
17-year-old boy yesterday took the toll for this year to 19.
Scotland Yard figures show that although teenage murders are
well down from a high of 29 in 2008, they are significantly up on last year,
when 15 teenagers died violent deaths.
Of the 19 adolescents who have been murdered this year, all
but two were stabbed or shot.
Lucy Cope, the founder of the campaign group Mothers against
Guns, Told The London Times she was not at all surprised that the number of
teenage murders was rising. "It's the young gang members," she said.
"They're reckless, they're fearless and they scare the older
The police have accused the prime minister, David Cameron,
of failing to deliver on his promises to tackle the problem and warned that the
coalition's public spending cuts would unleash "an era of terror"
with the continuing cuts on police budget’s all over England.
She said: "What do they think is going to happen? This
is just the tip of the iceberg. Once the cuts come in, crime is going to soar
and there will be no resources to deal with it."
Detectives investigating the murder of the latest victim
said he was found on the fourth floor stairwell of Gannet House on the Pelican
estate in Peckham, south-east London, a little after 4.30pm yesterday.
An ambulance crew pronounced him dead at the scene 45
minutes later. Two other male teenagers, aged 17 and 18, were treated for stab
wounds, and police believe the three attacks are linked.
Three males – two 17-year-olds and an 18-year-old – have
been arrested as part of the case, which is being investigated by officers from
Operation Trident, the Metropolitan police unit that tackles violent crime in
London's black community.
A woman who lives on the estate told the London Times
reporters the area was dangerous and urged police to increase routine patrols.
The mother of two, who did not want to be named, said problems with gangs had
returned after seemingly ending a few years ago.
Jenny Jones, a member of the London assembly and the
Metropolitan police authority, said she feared cuts might further damage
deprived areas where gang violence was already problem.
"Everything that the government is doing is just making
things worse for the kids on these estates," she said. "What they
need is education and entertainment to distract them from getting into these
violent groups. It's not a police problem; it's a social problem."
The mayor of London, Boris Johnson, promised to crack down
on soaring teenage crime when he was elected in 2008 but like so many other politicians
has just been a big bag of wind saying one thing and never actually achieving
Kit Malthouse, the deputy mayor of policing, said today that
although progress had been made, far more still needed to be done.
"While the numbers of teenagers dying on our streets is
well down from two years ago, it does not lessen the shock of this horrible
incident," he said.
"We have not had a teenage murder in the city for a
couple of months, but this tragedy reminds us that we still have a problem with
the minority of teenagers embroiled in gang culture and serious crime, who have
no respect for life or indeed themselves.
"The mayor and I remain committed to doing everything
in our power to tackle youth violence and bring long-term change.
"While we are having some success, I am under no
illusion that this is a mission that will take some time to complete."
The Met also acknowledged there were no easy answers to the
problems of youth violence. "We have always said we are in this for the
long haul and can only tackle these issues working alongside all the
communities in London," said Commander Simon Pountain.
"The message to people who commit violence is clear –
we will come after you and you will be arrested."
In May 2008, the mayor and the Metropolitan police launched
Operation Blunt 2, an initiative designed to tackle serious youth violence by
taking thousands of weapons off the streets, arresting offenders and working
with different communities to dissuade young people from carrying guns and
The figures are likely to re-open the debate on knife crime.
Earlier this month, it emerged that the Conservatives had decided to drop a
manifesto pledge to introduce mandatory prison sentences for those caught
In June, the prime minister appointed the former East Enders
actor Brooke Kinsella – whose brother, Ben, was stabbed to death in 2008 – to
examine schemes designed to stop young people carrying and using knives.
The London Times says;
There lots of big words from those who are incapable of
doing their jobs and a government that couldn’t care less about the descent law
abiding people of England, the law on all matters whether it be dropping litter
on the ground, speeding drives to gangs, drug pushers, murders should be zero tolerances
and meaning zero, with punishments that are so severe that will start to make
those who want to commit crime think, if I do that this? this going to happen,
not as now if I do that naff all is going to happen, and this is why teenagers
have no respect for the law because they have no fear of it, on the other hand
if you fear the law many would not commit the crime, yes you’re always going to
get those that will, but you will always get far more that won’t. And if you’re
not going to commit crimes then you won’t have to worry how severe the punishment
is? Rights if you don’t respect the rights of others you can’t expect to have
the same rights?