European Court may face curb on powers, and it’s about time to

European Court may face curb on powers, and it’s about time to

The European Court of Human Rights may be prevented from overruling English judges on immigration cases, the secretary of state for Justice Kenneth Clarke has revealed. (And it’s about time to that England’s British government stood for its rights, for far too long EU courts have been telling us in England what we can and not do, England is becoming over crowded with scrounging immigrants from the EU that do nothing but suck the life out of England)

British ministers are poised to strike a deal to secure a historic reform of the ECHR and stop it being used by “every individual who has lost his own particular case”.

Ministers were last week told to lobby their opposites in Europe to support a change in the court’s remit, with a deal being expected by next April.

“What we are trying to do is get the role of the court sorted out so that it deals with serious human rights issues of the kind that require an international court”, Clarke said.

The changes would bring to an end the situation where “everybody who’s just lost his arguments about deportation should be able to go there and get in the queue, wait a few years to get it all reheard again when he’s lost the argument three times already” in England.

English courts are “perfectly capable to applying the convention,” he said

The Conservatives have sought to reclaim human rights laws from Europe for many years but Clarke said the thought was “fanciful” until a breakthrough last week which involved a prominent role for the UK in the Council of Europe. Britain is currently chair of the Council and ministers have seized on the opportunity to reform the ECHR.

“To get any decision out of any international body usually takes at least 20 years,” said Clarke.

“You would take the first two years trying to agree to where to put the commas in the memorandum. But it’s not like that.

“A lot of member states have been pushing for similar things, and a lot of them believe a British chairmanship is the best time to deliver it, and they think we’re the best hope of drawing this to a conclusion.”

Clarke said it was a “nuisance” that those who face bring deported frequently appeal British court rulings to Strasbourg, allowing them to remain in the country for years while they wait for a European hearing. Senior English judges, including Lord Judge, the Lord Chief Justice, believe that the European court should have less influence on England. (If you have entered England illegally you have no rights to appeal, you broken the law and that should be an end to, illegal immigrants cost the English tax payers millions of pounds a year in appeals and this money could be better used for the people who pay those taxes?)

England's EU referendum

England's EU referendum: If Cameron doesn’t put the vote to the English electorate to stay in the EU or pull out, it will lead to his downfall as the majority in England want out of the EU

David Cameron faces the biggest rebellion of his premiership next week as dozens of Conservative MPs are expected to defy the Government and vote in favour of a referendum on England’s relationship with Europe.

Here we explain the significance of Monday's vote and the background to the debate surrounding a European referendum.

Where does the referendum call come from?

Under changes introduced by the Coalition, voters can start petitions on the Cabinet Office website. A petition that is backed by more than 100,000 people must then be considered for a Commons debate. The referendum call last month passed the 100,000 thres-hold and backbench MPs last week decided to hold the debate.

Hasn’t David Cameron suggested he’s in favour of EU referendums?

Yes, but not on leaving the EU. The Coalition has promised to hold a popular vote on any change in the EU rules that transfers more British power to Brussels. But the Government says that England should remain in the EU and a vote on membership would be a damaging distraction.

Over 100,000 people in England said they wanted a vote, Cameron has no real choice but to give England the vote, if he doesn’t then that would be totally un-democratic and would mean Cameron as become a dictator himself by saying he won’t give the English a vote, the outcome of Cameron’s decision could see the foundations laid for civil un-rest in England the ENA (English National Army) is ready to declare its independence from British rule if Cameron becomes a dictator and would have much backing form English voters.   

EU REFERENDUM: DAVID CAMERON FACES CABINET REBELLION OVER VOTE

EU REFERENDUM: DAVID CAMERON FACES CABINET REBELLION OVER VOTE

DAVID Cameron was braced for the biggest rebellion of his premiership after the Tory civil war over a proposed EU referendum intensified dramatically last night.

The Prime Minister was warned that at least 15 ministers and ministerial aides were ready to quit frontbench posts rather than follow his orders to oppose the referendum plan in a ­historic Commons vote next Monday.

By last night, nearly 80 MPs from all parties had backed the motion calling for a referendum.

At least 57 Tories, more than a third of the party’s backbenchers, had defied party Whips by signing the Commons motion supporting the national poll on the UK’s EU membership.

But attempts were being made to water down the referendum bid by proposing amendments to the original motion.

One amendment proposed by Tory backbencher George Eustice called for the Government to renegotiate the terms of Britain’s EU membership and then hold a referendum.

Mr Eustice said: “This would allow voters to judge the Government.”

Downing Street sources said the Government would not back the amendment but welcomed any move that would “muddy the waters”.

Tory rebels claimed the amendment was a deliberate attempt by Government Whips to wreck the referendum bid. Backbencher Peter Bone said: “This could have been written in the Whips’ Office. It is an attempt to sabotage the referendum motion.”

And one senior Cabinet Minister is said to have been “spitting blood” on learning that Mr Cameron had brought forward the date of the Commons vote in an attempt to wrong-foot rebels.

Mr Cameron was understood to have ordered junior frontbenchers to attend an emergency meeting in Downing Street on Monday to be read the riot act ahead of the vote. But his crackdown appeared to have backfired when one frontbencher openly declared his readiness to quit and warned that many colleagues were prepared to follow him.

Stewart Jackson, MP for Peterborough and Parliamentary Private Secretary to Northern Ireland Secretary Owen Paterson, said: “Some things are more important than party preferment. The bond of trust with my ­constituents, the views of people who have had no say on our European ­policy in any substantive sense for more than 30 years... I think I owe it to them to give them that say.”

Insiders said up to 15 frontbenchers were ready to resign their posts and vote for the motion proposing the first national poll on Britain’s relationship with Brussels since the 1975 Common Market referendum. Fury over the Prime Minister’s decision to switch the date and impose a three-line whip against the referendum plan erupted in the Commons yesterday.

Senior backbencher Mark Pritchard, secretary of the influential backbench 1922 Committee of Tory MPs, said: “There is now a three-line whip from the Government on the Conservative benches, a three-line whip on the Liberal Democrats and a three-line whip for the Labour benches.

“Is it any surprise that the British public are increasingly frustrated that this place is more out of touch than ever on the European question?”

Graham Brady, chairman of the 1922 Committee, said: “What matters is that backbench MPs of all parties should be free to vote in accordance with our beliefs and in the interests of our constituents.” But the Prime Minister’s spokesman said: “Our position is that Government MPs should vote for Government policy. The Government’s position is clearly set out. We don’t think there should be a referendum.”

UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage said: “The party leaders don’t trust their own MPs, so tell me, why should anybody trust them?”

Tory MP David Nuttall, who proposed the motion, voiced anger that the date switch would inconvenience thousands of supporters of the referendum campaign group the People’s Pledge who had planned to join a mass lobby of Parliament next Thursday, the original day of the vote.

The People’s Pledge yesterday confirmed their lobby would now take place on Monday from 2.30pm outside the House of Commons.

Sir Michael Black-Feather England’s first minister said; That Cameron is very happy for our brave armed forces to risk their lives every day to liberate people and countries from other dictatorships and to use them to spin on TV and the press about bringing democracy to these people. Yet, at the same time, he denies democracy to the English electorate? it’s not up to any one British political party to decide the future of the EU in England, it’s a decision that should be taken by all voters, and with Cameron now him-self becoming a dictator not listening to the voices of England that want out of the this mad cap EU that has no benefits to England, only burdens us with its bureaucratic nonsenses and cost the English tax payers billions of pounds each year so they can sit on their fat back-side and dictate to us here in England what we can and cannot do in our own country, so I have decided today to take the post offered to me by the English Nation Army as Brigadier General southern command 1^st Airborne Commando England  .