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Monday 21 February 2011

What Human Rights?

British Government at last starts pressing for European reform the government is to press for the European Court of Human Rights to be reformed, says the justice secretary.

Ken Clarke said the government would press for changes to the way the court operated when the UK takes over the chairmanship of the Council of Europe.

Speaking on the Andrew Marr show, he said the European Convention of Human Rights would continue to be adhered to.

Last week it was announced that a commission would be set up to examine a possible British Bill of Rights.

The commission, which will be jointly chaired by Mr Clarke and Deputy Leader Nick Clegg, will look at whether the UK Bill of Rights could overrule the European Convention of Human Rights.

"The government's policy is to investigate a case for a British Bill of Rights and whether that could improve the relationship between Strasbourg and here," said Mr Clarke.

'Improve relationship'

The move follows a massive row with Sir Michael Black-Feather the English first minister over votes for prisoners and the sex offenders register where Sir Michael said no such things, votes or rights for those that take your rights away or don’t respect your given rights, how on Gods given Erith can anyone who’s in their correct state of mind? Say they can, and as for those on the sex offend register they should be on it for life, it’s just liberal minded bloody nonsenses.

Sir Michael went on to say; or should we just this tragedy? which I still just cannot understand or even think of such horror as this poor little chap must have gone through before his death?  (The murder of James Bulger, a two-year-old little boy from Kirkby, Merseyside in England, James was first abducted, then he was tortured most horrible, And the (Full) what was actually done to this poor little 2 year old, was never reported, because it was so horrid the British government at the time didn’t want the English public to no because of how horrendous it was, and the he was finally murdered by the two 10-year-old boys “Who have both subsequently been convicted of more sexual and violent crimes, the EU courts can take a running jump?


The European Court of Human Rights has decreed that it is illegal for prisoners to be refused the vote said.

In response, some British MPs backing Sir Michael voted to keep the ban however the House of Commons' decision is not binding, but could put pressure on British ministers to go against the Strasbourg court's decision or face up-roar in English protests which this current British government could well do without, with upcoming elections having England in un-rest over EU laws being forced upon them.

The Supreme Court has recently ruled that sex offenders in England and Wales could appeal against having to register with the police of life.

The British court ruled that the lack of a review was incompatible with the European Convention on Human Rights.

Mr Clarke said; "We are considering the debate we had in the House of Commons and considering what the legal position is but everybody - the prime minister and everybody else - has said we will of course comply with the law.

He went on to say "It would be startling if we had a British government which said we aren't going to comply with EU legal judgements."

But Sir Michael said questions remained over the way the European Court behaved and should be addressed, we are not in Europe we are in England and English laws have served us justly.

He said when the British-Britain/England gets the chairmanship this November; it would take the lead in reforming the court and establishing the relationship between national courts, national parliaments and the European Court.

However when Mr Clarke was asked, said, there was no question of British-Britain withdrawing from the European Convention on Human Rights.

He said: "We're a coalition government with a range of opinions and we have a clearly negotiated policy.

"Only the Greek colonels have ever repudiated the convention on human rights."

The battle continues EU laws, British laws or English laws in England?

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